{"id":70061,"date":"2021-11-05T16:09:34","date_gmt":"2021-11-05T16:09:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/?p=70061"},"modified":"2021-12-16T18:31:37","modified_gmt":"2021-12-16T18:31:37","slug":"what-do-the-people-in-cardiff-think-about-tributes-of-controversial-historical-figures-being-taken-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/politics-social-justice\/what-do-the-people-in-cardiff-think-about-tributes-of-controversial-historical-figures-being-taken-down","title":{"rendered":"Should portraits and statues of controversial historical figures be taken down?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">As the National Museum Cardiff removes the portrait of Welsh military officer and slave owner, Thomas Picton, the public has\u00a0polarised\u00a0views on whether this is\u00a0the right\u00a0thing to do.\u00a0\u00a0<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70182\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-770x513.jpeg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-2048x1365.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1155x770.jpeg 1155w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-370x247.jpeg 370w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-293x195.jpeg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1400x933.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70182\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-770x513.jpeg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-2048x1365.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1155x770.jpeg 1155w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-370x247.jpeg 370w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-293x195.jpeg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/blm-1400x933.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/noscript><figcaption>The BLM protesters took down the Colston statue in Bristol as they believed that the statue glorified someone who didn&#8217;t deserve the tribute <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The removal of the portrait of Thomas\u00a0Picton, a Welsh slave owner and war hero in the early 1800s,\u00a0from Cardiff\u2019s\u00a0National Museum,\u00a0has sparked debate over\u00a0whether\u00a0this is a censorship of British history or\u00a0a symbol of racial justice.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thomas Picton was a military officer who fought in the Napoleonic Wars. During his reign as the governor of Trinidad, he authorised slave trade and allowed the use of violence. Although he was convicted of approving the torture of a 14-year-old girl,  the verdict was overturned and he was acquitted.  He died at the Battle of Waterloo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The statue of Edward Colston, an English merchant involved in slave trade,&nbsp;was torn down amidst&nbsp;the&nbsp;Black Lives Matter&nbsp;movement&nbsp;in Bristol&nbsp;in&nbsp;June,&nbsp;2020.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Huw Edwards, Welsh journalist and presenter had stated\u00a0that\u00a0he felt \u2018uneasy\u2019 about the portrait of\u00a0Picton\u00a0being taken down as he argued\u00a0that it censored\u00a0history. This was met with\u00a0mixed responses from people on\u00a0social media. The National Museum clarified\u00a0that\u00a0the portrait has only been temporarily removed and would be redisplayed to include\u00a0more about\u00a0Picton\u2019s\u00a0history.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>People in Cardiff had varied responses to&nbsp;tribute portraits and statues being taken down&nbsp;in the UK. Here are some of their&nbsp;opinions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Evan Roberts, 34, works for the Royal Mail, Cardiff<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70071\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70071\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/EVAN-ROBERTS-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt is outrageous that slave traders were ever celebrated in the first place.\u00a0There is anger that has led to them being taken down.\u00a0I defend the protests\u00a0and the people that have carried them out. In fact, my mum was part of the protests\u00a0to take down the statues\u00a0in the country.\u00a0I certainly wouldn\u2019t be against voters taking it down.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Gemma McCarthy, 23, works at a caf\u00e9, Cardiff<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"535\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70074\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-770x434.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"535\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70074\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-770x434.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/GEMMA-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhen it comes to history, it should be\u00a0left,\u00a0as is history.  Taking something down is not going to change\u00a0history\u00a0but it can encourage people to\u00a0actually\u00a0learn\u00a0from it. I think they should leave the portrait up and just teach people about history so you can move forward and not repeat the same mistake.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Poppy, 18, student, Devon<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70084\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70084\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/POPPY-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI feel quite positive that it\u2019s been taken down.&nbsp;Some people might feel proud of the fact that he was a war hero but if he was a slave trader, it\u2019s probably best that&nbsp;the portrait is not there.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S<strong>atya Kishore Joga,&nbsp;45,&nbsp;psychiatrist,&nbsp;Chepstow<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70086\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70086\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/KISHORE-JOGIjpg-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIn the 21st century, it is important to question history.\u00a0Tributes to slave traders give a false reputation of\u00a0Britain in the 1800s.\u00a0Slave trading practices are against human\u00a0rights\u00a0and I\u00a0fully\u00a0support the removal of the portrait of\u00a0Picton\u00a0at the National Museum.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Paul&nbsp;Bidois, 27, civil servant for the UK government<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70092\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70092\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/PAUL-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThese people\u00a0gathered their riches from\u00a0what are now illegal means\u00a0although at the time they weren&#8217;t illegal.\u00a0I don\u2019t agree that they should be taken down permanently. Maybe all of these should be put in a separate museum\u00a0so that the public can be educated as to why these statues were built in the first place and\u00a0why it&#8217;s important that they are no longer shown to the public.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Raghad, 19, student, Cardiff<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"535\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70095\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-770x434.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"950\" height=\"535\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-70095\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD.jpg 950w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-770x434.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/intercardiff\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/12\/2021\/11\/RAGHAD-293x165.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 950px) 100vw, 950px\" \/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cTaking down portraits and statues&nbsp;without permission is unethical. If protesters are permitted to take down the tributes&nbsp;legally, I\u2019m with&nbsp;them.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People in Cardiff have different perspectives on statues and portraits of historical figures being removed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":802,"featured_media":70223,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[197,277,351,408,1080],"coauthors":[1070],"class_list":["post-70061","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics-social-justice","tag-equality","tag-human-rights","tag-museums","tag-racism","tag-vox-pop"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.2 - 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