{"id":16321,"date":"2017-01-31T16:57:46","date_gmt":"2017-01-31T16:57:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jomec.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/?p=16321"},"modified":"2017-01-31T16:57:46","modified_gmt":"2017-01-31T16:57:46","slug":"first-minister-trades-blows-neil-hamilton-trump-ban","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/2017\/01\/31\/first-minister-trades-blows-neil-hamilton-trump-ban\/","title":{"rendered":"First Minister trades blows with Neil Hamilton over Trump ban"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>FIRST Minister Carwyn Jones today described Donald Trump\u2019s Muslim travel ban\u00a0as a policy \u201cbeyond rational defence\u201d.<br \/>\nAt First Minister&#8217;s Questions, AM for Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney, Dawn Bowden, tabled an Urgent Question asking Mr Jones\u00a0to comment on the impact of the travel ban on dual-nationality Welsh Muslims.<br \/>\nHe replied: \u201cThere is still considerable uncertainty about the impact of the travel ban &#8230; we will press for certainty.\u201d<br \/>\nMs Bowden denounced the US President\u2019s actions as \u201cindefensible\u201d in a lengthy speech during which the Presiding Officer had to remind her that she had not asked a question.<br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_16328\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16328\" style=\"width: 447px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-16328\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche.jpg\" alt=\"AMs were holding their twice-weekly plenary session in Y Siambr \" width=\"447\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche.jpg 1027w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-293x219.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 447px) 100vw, 447px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-16328\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-16328\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche.jpg\" alt=\"AMs were holding their twice-weekly plenary session in Y Siambr \" width=\"447\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche.jpg 1027w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Chamber_Julian-Nitzsche-293x219.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 447px) 100vw, 447px\" \/><\/noscript> AMs were holding their twice-weekly plenary session in Y Siambr (Credit: <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\/\">National Assembly of Wales<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nShe thanked the First Minister for condemning President Trump\u2019s policy, before describing Theresa May\u2019s effort as \u201cmealy-mouthed\u201d.<br \/>\n\u201cDonald Trump is a man who feels it\u2019s OK to mock those with disabilities,\u201d she said.<br \/>\n\u201cHe\u2019s a misogynist of the very worst kind, and he\u2019s an advocate of torture &#8211; all of which he has tried unsuccessfully to justify. His attempt to justify this policy has been equally risible.<br \/>\n\u201cIf Donald Trump wants to keep his country safe, maybe he should do something about gun control. Americans are far more of a danger to each other than anyone from any of the seven countries whose nationals are affected by this ban.<br \/>\n\u201cThe Holocaust did not start with gas chambers. It started with religious demonisation and intolerance.\u201d<br \/>\nMohammad Asghar, AM for South Wales East, said Mr Trump\u2019s policy was \u201ctotally divisive, unacceptable and inhumane\u201d.<br \/>\n\u201cStigmatising people because of their nationality cannot be defended,\u201d he said.<br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_16324\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16324\" style=\"width: 374px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-16324\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales.jpg\" alt=\"Carwyn Jones was quick to denounce Mr Trump's travel ban over the weekend \" width=\"374\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales.jpg 1027w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-293x219.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 374px) 100vw, 374px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-16324\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-16324\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales.jpg\" alt=\"Carwyn Jones was quick to denounce Mr Trump's travel ban over the weekend \" width=\"374\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales.jpg 1027w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/01\/Carwyn-Jones_National-Assembly-of-Wales-293x219.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 374px) 100vw, 374px\" \/><\/noscript> Carwyn Jones was quick to denounce Mr Trump&#8217;s travel ban (Credit: <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\/\">National Assembly of Wales<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nThe First Minister had earlier traded verbal blows with UKIP AM Neil Hamilton over the\u00a0ban.<br \/>\nMr Hamilton asked Mr Jones if he thought the jobs of 1,850 Ford workers in Bridgend would be put at danger if appeals to cancel President Trump\u2019s state visit were heeded.<br \/>\nMr Jones replied: \u201cThe Ford Motor Company has condemned Donald Trump\u2019s comments over the weekend.\u00a0We all see the chaos.\u201d<br \/>\nMr Hamilton then asked if the First Minister thought it was vitally important that the UK remains positive towards the President \u201cgiven that the United States is Wales\u2019 biggest individual trading partner\u201d.<br \/>\nThe First Minister described the timing of the Prime Minister\u2019s invitation as \u201cstrange\u201d, before saying he wouldn\u2019t criticise the PM for trying to forge links with the US government.<br \/>\nMr Hamilton said: \u201cThere is a difference in diplomacy between friendly criticism given in a polite and kind way and the kind of megaphone diplomacy which is more concerned with grandstanding and virtue-signalling in this country for domestic political gain.\u201d<br \/>\nTo laughs in the chamber, Mr Jones brandished UKIP\u2019s former leader Nigel Farage as \u201cthe master of megaphone diplomacy\u201d and \u201cDonald Trump\u2019s representative on earth\u201d.<br \/>\nAfter Mr Hamilton described the measures as temporary, the First Minister replied: \u201cIt doesn\u2019t matter if they\u2019re temporary.\u00a0Wrong is wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FIRST Minister Carwyn Jones today described Donald Trump\u2019s Muslim travel ban\u00a0as a policy \u201cbeyond rational defence\u201d. At First Minister&#8217;s Questions, AM for Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney, Dawn Bowden, tabled an Urgent Question asking Mr Jones\u00a0to comment on the impact of the travel ban on dual-nationality Welsh Muslims. He replied: \u201cThere is still considerable uncertainty about the impact of the travel ban &#8230; we will press for certainty.\u201d Ms Bowden denounced the US President\u2019s actions as \u201cindefensible\u201d in a lengthy speech [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":248,"featured_media":16324,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[3081,2141,4235,4195,4236,588],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-16321","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-assembly","tag-carwyn-jones","tag-chamber","tag-donald-trump","tag-neil-hamilton","tag-senedd"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>First Minister trades blows with Neil Hamilton over Trump ban - The Cardiffian<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/2017\/01\/31\/first-minister-trades-blows-neil-hamilton-trump-ban\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"First Minister trades blows with Neil Hamilton over Trump ban - The Cardiffian\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"FIRST Minister Carwyn Jones today described Donald Trump\u2019s Muslim travel ban\u00a0as a policy \u201cbeyond rational defence\u201d. 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