{"id":17041,"date":"2017-02-10T13:20:42","date_gmt":"2017-02-10T13:20:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jomec.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/?p=17041"},"modified":"2017-02-10T13:20:42","modified_gmt":"2017-02-10T13:20:42","slug":"elgans-angle-important-experience-wales-england","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/2017\/02\/10\/elgans-angle-important-experience-wales-england\/","title":{"rendered":"Elgan&#039;s Angle: How important is experience for Wales against England?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cWITH Clifford coming into the back row &#8211; I know what a quality player he is. We know a lot of quality is coming into that back row, irrelevant of experience.\u201d <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Irrelevant of experience. Those were the words of Wales captain Alun Wyn Jones at Thursday\u2019s press conference when asked about Eddie Jones\u2019 decision to hand Jack Clifford a Six Nations debut in Saturday\u2019s match between the sides.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Normally this remark, uttered quickly amid a maelstrom of answers at a press conference, might pass without comment.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in this case, Jones\u2019 words\u00a0seemed to be at odds with those of his coach.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Throughout the autumn internationals and the Six Nations thus far, the Number Ten debate has been a hot topic. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dan Biggar still holds on to the jersey, but the public clamour for Sam Davies\u2019 inclusion grows week on week &#8211; especially after his strong showing against Italy in week one. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">When asked about Davies, Howley was typically fulsome in his praise.<\/span><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_14596\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14596\" style=\"width: 387px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-14596\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Howley's team selections could be a bit more bold \" width=\"387\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-293x219.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley.jpg 1027w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 387px) 100vw, 387px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14596\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-14596\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Howley's team selections could be a bit more bold \" width=\"387\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley-293x219.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2016\/11\/Rob-Howley.jpg 1027w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 387px) 100vw, 387px\" \/><\/noscript> Howley&#8217;s team selections could be a bit more bold (Credit: <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\/\">Kafuffle<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cHe played in the autumn and we are confident with Sam starting,&#8221; said the Wales coach.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cWe spoke about experience in Italy, and the experience will come to the fore again against England. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cFrom a coach\u2019s perspective, it\u2019s one of the key ingredients when you are playing championship competition. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cThe Six Nations and experience have counted for us on occasions. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cIt\u2019s up to us as coaches and players to bring that experience to the fore.\u201d<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Experience. Experience. Experience. That is the Howley mantra.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">If George North succumbs to his injury, as rumoured, it seems likely that his place will be taken by Alex Cuthbert instead of Steff Evans. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Howley will opt for the experience of a man painfully out of form for the last four years, over the youngster who has been one of Wales\u2019 top\u00a0players this season. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Donald Trump\u2019s paraphrased quote about Hilary Clinton springs to mind: She has experience &#8211; it\u2019s just bad experience. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The problem for Sam Davies is that, for as long as he is judged by his inexperience, he will remain inexperienced.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eddie Jones, perhaps buoyed by his side\u2019s 15-game unbeaten run but also with his hand somewhat forced by a lengthy injury list, has given 23-year-old Clifford his maiden Six Nations start in the biggest game of all.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alongside him in a back-row containing only 20 caps &#8211; the most inexperienced English back-row for five years &#8211; are 22-year-old Maro Itoje and Nathan Hughes, with older heads Tom Wood and James Haskell taking their place on the bench.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a hypothetical world where rugby matches are decided solely on experience, Wales would win on Saturday to complete four successive Six Nations wins over England.<\/span><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_17042\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17042\" style=\"width: 352px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-17042\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Brisbane-born Clifford will make his first Six Nations start on Saturday\" width=\"352\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-293x219.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford.jpg 1027w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 352px) 100vw, 352px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-17042\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-17042\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"Brisbane-born Clifford will make his first Six Nations start on Saturday\" width=\"352\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-770x576.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-500x374.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford-293x219.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2017\/02\/Jack-Clifford.jpg 1027w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 352px) 100vw, 352px\" \/><\/noscript> Brisbane-born Clifford will make his first Six Nations start on Saturday (Credit: <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\/deed.en\">Charlie<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For the third match running, Wales\u2019 matchday squad has over 900 caps, while it only just missed that figure in 2014.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">England\u2019s side is actually their most experienced of the last four matches with 810 caps, whereas three years ago they came up short against Wales by more than 400 caps.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">When picking a Wales side, experience is the be all and end all for Howley, but when it comes to assessing the opposition, his captain\u00a0says quality is more important than experience.<\/span><br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Realistically, there cannot be too many qualms with retaining Dan Biggar in the 10 jersey. He has performed solidly for Wales of late, performing his role in the manner expected of him. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But if you\u2019re going to pick him, pick him based on the skill-set and tactics he offers &#8211; don\u2019t just pick the more experienced man every time regardless of form. \u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite being the form fly-half in Wales, it has never really felt like Davies has been genuinely considered for the starting role, despite Howley\u2019s protestations to the contrary. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pertinently, this year\u2019s fixture marks the 50th anniversary of Jarrett\u2019s Match, when an 18-year-old Keith Jarrett scored a then world-record 19 points on debut to give Wales a 34-21 victory.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ten years ago, a 21-year-old James Hook scored 22 points in Wales\u2019 27-18 win in Cardiff. Sometimes inexperience can be a good thing. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2013, Sam Davies was named World Junior Player of the Year. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In four caps for Wales, he has helped mastermind a come-from-behind win over Italy, and slotted a winning drop-goal against Japan. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The runner-up to the crown four years ago was Ardie Savea, a flanker with 12 caps for the All Blacks. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In third place? Jack Clifford. <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWITH Clifford coming into the back row &#8211; I know what a quality player he is. We know a lot of quality is coming into that back row, irrelevant of experience.\u201d Irrelevant of experience. 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