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Butetown has well below UK average green space and building on what little there is cannot be justified.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;There was a massive campaign to protect it when Associated British Ports (ABP) wanted to build a block of flats on it three years ago. After this was shelved, the council bought Britannia Park sensibly to protect the public open space. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;But now they want to put a museum on top of it. It will destroy that sense of freedom and openness. Cardiff Council is only interested in developers and the people of Butetown are being overlooked.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/cardiffnewsplus\/campaign-launched-to-save-britannia-park-in-cardiff-bay-from-museum-plan\/\">More than a hundred people have signed a petition <\/a>against the council\u2018s proposal to transform the green space. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The proposed museum is currently based at Aldershot barracks in Surrey, but has wanted to relocate to Cardiff since 2016 because the Ministry of Defence wishes to stop subsidising secondary activities like museums.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the museum plan is not the only one in the area facing opposition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Paddle Steamer community cafe, a unique and popular facility in Loudoun Square, now faces closure and demolition due to redevelopment plans which some local people claim will have a detrimental impact on the Somali and Yenemi communities.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-twitter wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The Paddle Steamer has been a unique and essential Tiger Bay community facility for generations.\u00a0But now, Cardiff Council plans to demolish this much loved community cafe in Butetown.\u00a0You can help by signing the petition here: \ud83d\udc49 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/nSscQEFfHi\">https:\/\/t.co\/nSscQEFfHi<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Butetown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Butetown<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Butetown Matters (@ButetownMatters) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ButetownMatters\/status\/1312796391006240774?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 4, 2020<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Keith Murrell, who runs the Butetown Carnival, said: \u201cI can say that the [Butetown] community has been systematically disenfranchised for decades &#8211; there simply is no community enfranchisement at all: and \u2018heritage\u2019 is a recurring theme in this process. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The true community heritage is not lost at all, but the idea of Butetown \/ Tiger Bay heritage as a \u2018product\u2019 has been misappropriated, misrepresented and mismanaged for many years &#8211; so much that this has now become a part of the history itself.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;From my limited understanding and knowledge, the Museum of Military Medicine was not considered viable in and of itself in other locations. I worry that once this museum is built it would be underwritten by public funding for the foreseeable future, come what may.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The argument is that if the museum were in a more public location, then it would attract more visitors and hence be able to become financially self-sufficient. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, Cardiff Civic Society claim that the numbers do not add up. The UK Treasury has provided \u00a32m towards relocation but the grandiose vision the museum is now proposing,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-wales-50249739\"> including a state-of-the-art immersive Deep Space<\/a>, would cost \u00a330m.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-twitter wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">A TRANSFORMATIONAL WORLD CLASS DEVELOPMENT IN WALES<br><br>Public consultation is now underway on the Museum of Military Medicine\u2019s plans to build a new museum facility and medical innovation hub in Cardiff Bay.<br><br>For more information see: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/bo3S1ppx1z\">https:\/\/t.co\/bo3S1ppx1z<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Awy25veTiU\">pic.twitter.com\/Awy25veTiU<\/a><\/p>&mdash; MuseumOfMilitaryMeds (@AMSMuseum) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AMSMuseum\/status\/1158728024407314432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 6, 2019<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Many residents will recall the closure of the Butetown History and Arts Centre which, despite public funding, finally went bust and closed its doors in 2016.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Keith added: \u201cIt\u2019s possible that some different faces would have had more success in raising funding for the Centre. 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