{"id":62768,"date":"2022-02-18T15:20:14","date_gmt":"2022-02-18T15:20:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/?p=62768"},"modified":"2022-02-18T15:20:15","modified_gmt":"2022-02-18T15:20:15","slug":"church-leaders-object-to-ban-on-conversion-therapy-for-gay-people","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/2022\/02\/18\/church-leaders-object-to-ban-on-conversion-therapy-for-gay-people\/","title":{"rendered":"Church leaders object to ban on &#8216;conversion therapy&#8217; for gay people"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"cardiff-ministers-willing-to-face-criminal-charges-to-protect-christian-teachings\">Cardiff ministers &#8216;willing to face criminal charges to protect Christian teachings&#8217; \u00a0<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>OVER 2,500 UK ministers and pastoral workers, including 20 from Cardiff, have signed an <a href=\"https:\/\/ministersconsultationresponse.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Dear-Secretary-of-State-Letter-from-2546-signatories-to-the-consultation-on-banning-conversion-therapy.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2cA2L8z6UrIK4h2FcmdbI894wrytIjledSSlaFlP5OwYRH-pr4mVPk8aA\">open letter<\/a> against the proposed banning of <a href=\"http:\/\/stonewall.org.uk\/everything-you-need-know-about-conversion-therapy\">conversion therapy<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The practice is used to try to change someone\u2019s sexual orientation, gender identity or reduce their attraction to others of the same sex.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Methods include counselling sessions and being prayed over as a form of healing. More extreme forms include threatening a person with homelessness, food deprivation and exorcisms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Equalities Minister, Liz Truss, wants the UK Government to introduce draft legislation in the spring to ban the practice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But 11 church ministers co-wrote a letter to her saying they wished to continue the practice and that banning it would breach their legal rights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The letter claims it is \u201cmorally wrong\u201d to go against God\u2019s design for society and those who commit the \u201csin\u201d have put themselves, family, and society at risk of \u201ctragic consequences\u201d\u00a0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of those 11 co-writers was the Rev Dave Gobbett, lead pastor from Highfields Church Cardiff.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe are ultimately ministers of the Gospel and serve the Lord Jesus Christ, not the local state. We are not at liberty to change what we practise, in terms of what the government says, and we will be criminalised if need be,&#8221; he said.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe want to be law-abiding citizens, and Christians should be, but we\u2019re prepared to be criminalised for the sake of this important matter.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In contrast, Church in Wales bishops are in favour of a ban. They say human sexuality is an expression of God\u2019s glorious diversity in creation.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe class=\"zeen-lazy-load-base zeen-lazy-load\" title=\"&#039;I would be prepared to face charges&#039; if conversion therapy ban stops proper Christian support\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"about:blank\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zjcjYE_DiKs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><noscript><iframe title=\"&#039;I would be prepared to face charges&#039; if conversion therapy ban stops proper Christian support\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zjcjYE_DiKs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/noscript>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In the letter, the protesting group says the term &#8220;conversion therapy&#8221; is \u201cso broad as to be essentially meaningless\u201d and that it is a \u201cmerciful act\u201d\u00a0\u00a0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bacp.co.uk\/media\/6526\/memorandum-of-understanding-v2-reva-jul19.pdf]\">NHS England<\/a> warns that all forms of conversion therapy are &#8220;unethical and potentially harmful\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In October 2021, the government opened a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/government\/consultations\/banning-conversion-therapy\">public consultation<\/a> on its plans to make administering &#8220;talking therapy&#8221; for under-18s or non-consenting adults illegal.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The following measures were proposed:\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>A ban on conversion therapy \u2013 introducing a new criminal offence alongside sentence uplifts for existing offences.\u00a0<\/li><li>A package of support for victims, restricting promotion of conversion therapies, removing profit streams, and strengthening the case for disqualification from holding a senior role in a charity.<\/li><li>Introducing Conversion Therapy Protection Orders to protect potential victims from undergoing the practice including overseas.<\/li><li>Exploring further measures to prevent the promotion of conversion therapy.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Evangelical churches in Cardiff that are against the legislation include All Nations Christian Centre, Calvary Chapel, Bridge Church, Bethel Presbyterian Church, The Bay Church and Heath Evangelical Church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In response, Louis Bishop, 31, from Canton, who identifies as gay, said: \u201cI was christened, and I always say \u2018I think\u2019 I believe in God because when people preach that God is against you being gay, it makes you question your belief.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s disgusting that they don\u2019t want to ban conversion therapy \u2013 people are who they are at the end of the day. God made us all different and we should celebrate uniqueness.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He added: \u201cWhere\u2019s the proof to say this is what God would have wanted? I know they say it\u2019s in the Bible, but we are proof that God made us all to be individual.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYou shouldn\u2019t be made to feel like a criminal because the church is telling you who you should be and what you should do.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cLove is love and you can\u2019t help who you are.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"Progress flags\" class=\"wp-image-61654\" width=\"770\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-770x513.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-500x333.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1155x770.jpg 1155w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-370x247.jpg 370w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-293x195.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"Progress flags\" class=\"wp-image-61654\" width=\"770\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-770x513.jpg 770w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-500x333.jpg 500w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-1155x770.jpg 1155w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-370x247.jpg 370w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3-293x195.jpg 293w, https:\/\/cardiffjournalism.co.uk\/thecardiffian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2022\/02\/Portrait3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><\/noscript><figcaption><strong>New flags outside Cardiff castle to raise awareness of LGBT+ History Month which takes place in February.<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cardiff is also home to many inclusive churches and charities that help the LGBTQ+ community share the Christian faith.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thegatheringcardiff.org\/\">The Gathering<\/a>, a charity in Cardiff, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchinwales.org.uk\/en\/structure\/church\/3884\/\">St John the Baptist Church,<\/a> a fully inclusive Anglican church governed under the Church in Wales, welcome all.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Church in Wales\u2019 Bench of Bishops encourages the proposed ban of conversion therapy.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe believe that human sexuality is a gift of God to be cherished and honoured. It is an intrinsic part of who we are as human beings and an expression of God\u2019s glorious diversity in creation,&#8221; said the bishops.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe also urge the Senedd to bring in robust legislation to ban conversion therapy in all its forms thereby offering protection to LGBTQI+ people in Wales from this abusive and damaging practice.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The UK Government&#8217;s draft legislation will be ready in the spring.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cardiff ministers &#8216;willing to face criminal charges to protect Christian teachings&#8217; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":752,"featured_media":62831,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,3],"tags":[1291,4594,7886,7887,7888],"coauthors":[7314],"class_list":["post-62768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-featured","category-news","tag-cardiff-2","tag-church-in-wales","tag-conversion-therapy","tag-lgbtq-churches","tag-ministers-open-letter"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Church leaders object to ban on &#039;conversion therapy&#039; 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